Graham Cooke: False versus Poor Prophecy

Often the title of an article or video is a good indicator that something is amiss with it and this is exactly the case in the following instance. At the bottom of this page is a transcript of a video, entitled False vs Poor Prophecy which can be viewed here It is transcribed in full to ensure that nothing has been taken out of context. The transcription can be read beneath this article. The bold parts illustrate text to which comments have been made in this article. The question here is: has Graham Cooke represented the gospel of Jesus Christ or has he presented another gospel?

Charismatics, of whom Graham is one, seem to want to bring heaven down to earth, but have little interest in eternal life. Graham appears to hold this view when he says that God's purpose is: to bring many sons into glory. That does not mean to take a lot of people into heaven - it can mean that - but I think also that it really means to bring people into a glorious experience of who God really, really is. Thus Graham appears to make a separation of people into two classes: those who will receive eternal life and those who want an experience. Can we have an experience of God (to use Graham's expression) and not be saved? Let's be quite clear: salvation means being saved and being saved means receiving eternal life. For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Jesus Christ our Lord Romans 6 v23 and that is the "experience" which our Heavenly Father wants all to have. An experience of God cannot be regarded as faith since the Bible is clear when it says Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11 v1 (KJV). If we see it, sense it or experience it in some way, then we have transferred the evidence away from faith and into the physical world. In other words, we would then have no need faith. Secondly, there is no scripture which promises an experience of God.

The following phrase is particularly troublesome as Graham writes: who he wants to be for you. This phrase or any wording which might convey the idea that God wants to mould himself to suit us, is completely foreign to scripture. In fact, it is the direct opposite of scripture which says: "O house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter does?" declares the Lord, "Like clay in the hand of the potter, so are you in my hand, O house of Israel" Jeremiah 18 v6. Graham Cooke is reversing this principle and it surely means that we could create God! This is blasphemy idea.

Graham then claims that There's a huge difference between poor prophecy and false prophecy. Accordingly, there must be three kinds of prophecy: good, poor and false. Whereas according to scripture there are two kinds of prophecy: true or false. Graham introduces his third category to cover the problem of charismatic prophets not being 100% spot-on. There are strong prohibitions against false prophets even in the New Testament. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. 2Peter 2 v1. Today, false prophets have not vanished, they have proliferated. Currently Zedekiah List has quotes by over six hundred such persons. The Apostle Peter continues by saying: Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping 2Peter 2 v3b. Introducing the concept of poor prophets is simply adding to scripture. For Graham poor prophecy appears to bring its own problems: it leaves people stranded in this no-man's land of guilt condemnation and shame. He later emphasises the need for truth but fails to present the truth by airbrushing out the idea that people's sin should be mentioned. Jesus never minced his words, but pointed straight at people's sin when he said things like "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering."Luke 11 v52. These are strong words which should have brought guilt, condemnation and shame on the Pharisees of Jesus's day. If preaching and prophesying ignores the fact that we are sinners then it is neither presenting the gospel nor being prophetic. Sadly Graham is leaving people ignorant of their spiritual state and God's wonderful remedy.

Not one of the four gospels records that: John the Baptist comes and bows to him. Similarly there is no reference found in the Old or New Testament that he lays down the Old Testament style of the prophetic. Graham is laying a false foundation for New Testament prophets so that their blatant inaccuracy can be tolerated. Old Testament prophets were 100% accurate and the New Testament never changes this. If the Holy Spirit is speaking through a "prophet" then it will be 100% accurate, otherwise the Holy Spirit would be less than 100%. It is interesting to note that Graham's description of Old Testament prophecy is in itself accurate. However, he refuses to apply it to modern prophets who exist only for the purposes of the New Order of the Latter Rain and its Joel's army, which is the unbiblical starting point for modern dominionism. Dominionism then demands the return of the Ephesians 4 ascension gifts of apostles and prophets.

Jesus himself establishes a new order of the prophetic which is rooted in the good news, in the gospel of grace, and the gospel of salvation Graham gives no verse or verses with which to support this statement. The simple reason for that omission is that no verse in scripture supports this idea.

Graham warms to his theme, the emphasis here being his theme: So the essential difference too between the Old Testament and the New Testament is there is an absence of judgement in the New Covenant. Firstly, the word "judgement" is mentioned 53 times in the New Testament and there are verses which say For it is time for the judgement to begin with the family of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not believe the gospel of God 1Peter 4 v17 or Jesus's own words when he says and my judgement is just John 5 v30.

Having developed the false notion that the New Covenant has no judgement Graham then says: Was Jesus judged enough for our sin. The writer of Hebrews, speaking of Jesus as our great high priest wrote We have one who was tempted in every way, as we are - yet was without sin Hebrews 4 v15. Jesus was without sin; so how could he be judged? The result of this flawed theology is Graham's next false statement that says if Jesus was judged enough for sin then there is no place for judgement in this life he then says: So really what we are facing today is the fact that the church is a redeemed community in a reconciled society. Here Graham surely shows universalist leanings. In his eyes believers are redeemed and everyone else is reconciled to God. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. John 3 v18. These are Jesus's own words and was said before Jesus died on the cross, but nevertheless those words still stand today. The stark fact is that there are multitudes of people who are condemned already because they are without Christ in their lives. They are not reconciled in any way and the Bible actually calls them enemies of God (see James 4 v3) However, if the gospel were preached to them they might receive him and be reconciled and redeemed. The two ideas of reconciliation and redemption are both integral parts of being saved. Graham then says the difference now, is not about saved and unsaved, which is a horrible definition. This horrible definition is a scriptural fact and it is the truth. Biblically the word "saved" is used whilst the word "unsaved" is not, but clearly the distinction exists, as in "not saved". However Graham tells everyone that God has nothing against you. He has already judged Jesus on your behalf. Graham is lulling people into a false sense of security by not telling them the truth.

Next comes a very strange and unscriptural philosophy from Graham when he says And the prophetic then released into the lives of people who are reconciled enables them to upgrade from reconciliation to redemption. Salvation is not an upgrade from one level of reconciliation to another. This is introducing an idea which is absolutely foreign to scripture and totally unbiblical, it is adding to scripture and is presenting another gospel which exists only in Graham Cooke's imagination. No-one can be saved except by the operation of the Holy Spirit and so the saved have the Holy Spirit whilst the unsaved never have the Holy Spirit.

One suspects that the emphasis on there being no judgement is for the benefit of those in descernment ministries, who in Graham's eyes, and in the eyes of many listed here on Zedekiah List, are simply critising and judging them. It is sad that no ministry has taken Graham to task over his decidely unscriptural statements but, since he has made those statements publicly they should be publicly refuted, so that others may understand and not be drawn into Graham's errors. All scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training for righteousness. 2Timothy 3 v16. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees in no uncertain terms, the Apostle Paul named persons who were leading the early church astray and both John and Peter in their epistles also recognised that this was happening. Graham Cooke is clearly misrepresenting the gospel of Jesus Christ and in so doing presents another gospel. He has picked the bits of the gospel which suit his ideas and criticises those bits which correct him. He may be a teacher but whatever kind of teacher he is, he is not a bible teacher and his teachings should be ignored and avoided.

2nd December 2012

 

The following is the transcription of a video found here and on which the above article comments.

It is for freedom that Christ has set us free and everything; all of God's intentionality, all of God's purpose around us: one is to make us like Jesus and it's to bring many sons into glory. That does not mean to take a lot of people into heaven - it can mean that - but I think also that it really means to bring people into a glorious experience of who God really, really is and who he wants to be for you. So the nature of the gospel, the testimony of Jesus is the very essence of prophecy and he came to make us like him. So we are in Christ learning to be christ-like. But there's a huge difference then between prophecy that sets us free and prophecy that actually imprisons us without any choices, and a lot of negative prophecy has those overtones. There's a huge difference between poor prophecy and false prophecy. False prophecy is a deliberate leading astray; leading people astray from the truth of the gospel and from the heart and nature of God, from the essential purposes of heaven and it leaves people stranded in this no-man's land of guilt condemnation and shame. A lot of poor prophecy - and so the false prophecy is very deliberate - it's leading people astray. Some of that occurs because the person prophesying those things really has no conceptual understanding or experience of the nature of God or what God is really like. And it's similar with poor prophecy, people have been brought up wrong in the gospel they don't see the gospel for what it truly, truly is and I think especially people moving in judgement.

It's interesting to me that John the Baptist was the last of the Old Testament prophets and erm because the cross is the delineation between the Old Testament and the New Testament. So here's Jesus pre-cross, John the Baptist comes and bows to him and so he lays down the Old Testament style of the prophetic which is very forthright very determined, very deliberate: you have sinned, you have done this, God is against you, God will judge you and so on. And he lays down that whole concept of the prophetic and Jesus himself establishes a new order of the prophetic which is rooted in the good news, in the gospel of grace, and the gospel of salvation. And the good news of the gospel is that pre-cross there is one race of people who can live with God and the Spirit of God can come on them and they can be anointed in that way, but after the cross there is an entirely new race of people actually brought into the earth that has never been seen before. That's why the New Testament says that we are a new creation. We are a race of people who have never been seen in the earth before. We are a bunch of people who now have God living on the inside of them. We don't have the presence of God on us we have the presence of God in us coming through us. So we are a totally new race of people and the gospel therefore is a gospel of grace, it's a gospel of goodness, it's a gospel of goods news and the good news is that now God has taken up residence on the inside of us. So we are in Christ learning to be christ-like. So the essential difference too between the Old Testament and the New Testament is there is an absence of judgement in the New Covenant. So the question we have to ask ourselves is this "Was Jesus judged enough for our sin." If you don't know the answer to that, then your experience of God is extremely deficient and you may not even be saved. Another question is "Was Jesus punished enough for sin." If the answer to those two questions is "yes", if Jesus was judged enough for sin then there is no place for judgement in this life. So between Calvary, which was judgement on Jesus, once and for all for the sins of mankind between that day of judgement and the day of judgement there is no place for judgement in this world because the difference now, is not about saved and unsaved, which is a horrible definition. It's not about, even really about christian and pre-christian. The issue is between those who are reconciled and those who are redeemed. The Bible says in 2Corinthians 5 v19 that "God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself not holding their transgressions against them." Yeah.

So really what we are facing today is the fact that the church is a redeemed community in a reconciled society. What that means is God does not have anything against anybody, because he has already judged Jesus. So in order for God to judge anybody now he has to tread underfoot the cross of Jesus Christ, 'cause you cannot say "I have poured all my judgement on Christ" and then reserve some for now. If Jesus is only 98% judged then we can't be saved. Yeah. So this is the nature of the gospel. Most Christians are schizophrenic about the gospel. You know we think that God has poured out all his anger upon Jesus, oh but he kept some back because he is angry at this and he's angry at that. There is no place in the gospel for an angry God. He poured out every ounce of wrath and indignation upon Jesus, so he hasn't got any left then. He chooses not to express any in this life, but once this world has been rolled up and the end of the age has come on the Day of Judgement that's a whole different scenario. So God is not judging anybody right now.

So this is the issue: if Jesus is our advocate Jesus Christ the righteous, if he is our public defender then surely the prosecution can't be the prophetic. Because really you don't want to get in a courtroom with Jesus because if you judge in that context, you are the one that will be judged and scripture on that: Judge and you will be judged. And so the prophetic is not about judgement, it is about freedom. It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. So the prophetic points to who people are. So the whole world is reconciled to God - that means everybody in the world has the potential to become saved. What the church is doing with the gospel of salvation is coming to people and saying: "God has nothing against you. He has already judged Jesus on your behalf. This is what the Lord is doing right now. He wants to establish you in a place of righteouness and favour and the way that that can happen is for you to come to Jesus and receive him and when you receive Christ, then you can learn to become as Christ is. As he is so are you in this world". So while you are thinking about the gospel: let's get your body healed; let's get you in a good job; let's make sure that your children are restored and off drugs and everything else. So what the church is doing really in the earth is we are giving people tasters of the kingdom. We are the ones saying "Hey, Taste and see that the Lord is good." The prophetic has to slow therefore in line with the true preaching of the gospel. Yeah.

So poor prophecy is where it doesn't do that. Poor prophecy is where it leaves people feeling condemned, ashamed, on the wrong side of God's grace. False prophecy is an intentional leading astray away from truth. The Bible talks about speaking the truth in love. The truth is a person. Jesus said "I am the truth". So when we are talking about the truth in love there's a different between what is true and what is true. It may be true that a person has a bad temper, but the truth is that they can be a new creation in Christ. So when you are speaking the truth in love you're saying: "Hey you don't have to do that - because this is who you are". We speak the truth to them because when they are not living in the truth they may just be living in what is true and what is habitual for them in terms of their learned behaviour. So we come along and say: "You don't have to do that because this is who you are in Jesus an we speak the truth in love. This is who you are, it's the truth that sets you free." The prophetic follows the way of truth. It follows the personality of Jesus. It follows the relationship which Jesus had as a man on the earth walking with the Father. It follows the relationship that he has now as the Son of God in heaven interceding for us. The prophetic has to follow the line of the intercession of the Son to the Father. So there can't be any place for judgement if Jesus is interceding for us. You see none of that judgement stuff makes sense and really it's because people I think, are living from an Old Testament style of prophecy rather than the New Covenant style of prophecy that has placed us in Christ and enables us therefore to be empowered by words of prophecy to abide, to remain, to dwell and to become. And the prophetic then released into the lives of people who are reconciled enables them to upgrade from reconciliation to redemption. That's a little like getting a credit card in the mail where you can't activate the benfits of that card until you connect with the principal. That's what prophecy does. It connects you with the heart of God so that you can see yourself as he really sees you and you can receive an upgrade. Any prophetic word that doesn't give you an upgraded perception of who you are in Christ and who God is for you it's either going to be poor prophecy or it's going to be false and that's how you know. Yahoo. hah, hahahaha.

 

Further reading:

  • Graham Cooke: Decree
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